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matman
Familiar Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 24/01/2008 : 23:40:12
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Do your bit!
I was a witness in a crash last month where a young boy and his girl friend drove straight over a round-a-bout, flipped the car and smashed through several bollards/posts before stopping. The driver had clearly been drinking (smell, eyes, slurring etc). Luckily they were both unhurt but I called the police anyway.
Just recieved a letter saying he has been given a 20-month ban and a fine!
Just now as I was coming home in my car, a taxi behind me was giving me a lot of grief driving close and switching his high beam on for some time before overtaking me at a ridiculous speed. I just noted his registration and intend to report it tomorrow.
Help keep bikers safe from these arse holes! |
"It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye... then it's just a game; find the eye!" -M. Marsh
"One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" -J. Stalin
"Our successes pass by unnoticed whilst we dwell on our failures" -Anon
"Although it's the early bird that catches the worm, it's the second mouse which gets the cheese." -Flop |
Edited by - matman on 24/01/2008 23:40:54 |
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aaron0288
Regular Member
United Kingdom
688 Posts |
Posted - 24/01/2008 : 23:48:19
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"I don't want to earn a living, I want to live"
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NC23_Rob
New Member
United Kingdom
22 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 00:02:21
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| I'm going to fit a digital cctv recorder to my bike...everyday something, two days ago i was in 2nd lane of a bypass and a bus pulled into my lane and very nearly knocked me clean off! |
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leopard_pagan
The Oracle
United Kingdom
10898 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 06:51:46
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| i do my bit when i can. but some times you have no details to report (flying coffee and white van muppet!) |
>^..^< NC29 RR-L with all sorts of custom bits and mods |
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matman
Familiar Member
United Kingdom
260 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 07:50:24
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Originally posted by leopard_pagan
(flying coffee and white van muppet!)
This is true.
The worst drivers are (in no particular order): vans, lorries, buses, taxis, oh-look-at-me-i-have-a-fast-car-i-can-overtake-in-stupid-places drivers. |
"It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye... then it's just a game; find the eye!" -M. Marsh
"One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" -J. Stalin
"Our successes pass by unnoticed whilst we dwell on our failures" -Anon
"Although it's the early bird that catches the worm, it's the second mouse which gets the cheese." -Flop |
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challymo
Settled In Member
United Kingdom
190 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 09:12:35
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| unfortunately some people dont wash there number plates either, i had this problem when a guy followed me close overtook me then tried for 2 miles to get me to pull over, he eventually got his son to run in front of me and make me stop. the guy then attacked me but i couldnt get his number plate as it was covered in dirt. |
300 bikes riding round a small town, even better when the police block the cars for us. VFR400R |
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Evilchicken0
Nice thong !
United Kingdom
13161 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 09:44:15
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| I assume you'll turn yourselves in when you make a mistake ? |
Heated grips are the Devil's dildo's |
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challymo
Settled In Member
United Kingdom
190 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 10:37:47
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| I can simpathise with mistakes as this is often greeted by a scared looking person mouthing apolagies, this i wouldn't report unless i was knocked off. But in the cases people chucking stuff out of windows at us, taxis riding right on peoples backsides and road rage do you feel these should not be reported? |
300 bikes riding round a small town, even better when the police block the cars for us. VFR400R |
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Evilchicken0
Nice thong !
United Kingdom
13161 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 11:40:11
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If I get tailgated I usually slow down. If somebody starts kicking off I either wave at them or get ready to fight.
I guess it's up to you, afterall if you report things you can't complain about it. But having a camera to record all the injustices is simply petty. |
Heated grips are the Devil's dildo's |
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Tham
Familiar Member
United Kingdom
345 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 11:48:01
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| If your being tail gated why don't you let that following person pass as soon as it is pertinent to do so at your level of piloting skill??? Let them drive to there own death if you think they are idiots. Frustration causes accidents - I see that sign a lot in Scotland - and clearly we all get frustrated. |
Wot IS that... musk?? |
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Quicksilver
Regular Member
United Kingdom
512 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 12:16:12
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As Evil says - where do you draw the line? Chucking stuff out of a window is unlawful, but so is speeding, whether it’s doing a tonne or 35 in a 30 limit. The only people capable of being arbiters of the law are the law themselves.
If everyone drove around with cameras, citing each other for every unlawful transgression, where would it end?
I try to keep within the law, but I'm sure I'm no angel. We judge others by their actions and ourselves by our intentions.
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hyde2
Settled In Member
United Kingdom
148 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 12:22:14
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| On the other hand a good percentage of young scooter riders who sit on your chuff wearing nothing but a shirt, trainers an jeans should be penalised before thier inexperience catches them out. I understand we have all got to start somewhere are see plenty of cautious riders but some of them are oblivious to the dangers on the road. It effects a driver having to slam his or her brakes on because of some "tool" arsing around , but that goes for some drivers too. |
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leopard_pagan
The Oracle
United Kingdom
10898 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 13:11:43
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tailgaters get the brakes treatment, they soon learn + some time this yr be told via message board. 'back off'
CCTV is a project for my bike.. but recording is an added option.
what i want to use it for is to replace my mirrors with a screen fed from a rear view cam.
i can also add a front cam + record live feed. if i record an incident, i would hand a copy of it to police. |
>^..^< NC29 RR-L with all sorts of custom bits and mods |
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BUGIE
Regular Member
Malta
505 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 13:15:44
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Originally posted by challymo
I can simpathise with mistakes as this is often greeted by a scared looking person mouthing apolagies, this i wouldn't report unless i was knocked off. But in the cases people chucking stuff out of windows at us, taxis riding right on peoples backsides and road rage do you feel these should not be reported?
Challymo raises a good point here...
I personally often fail to see the speeding fireblade approach and then shoot pass me (both when i'm on a bike or in my car) so alot of the times when someone cuts you up it is indeed accidental. In Most situations I raise my visor, pull alongside the car foaming at the mouth, ready to give the driver a proper bollocking only to find drivers looking just as surprised/shocked to see you passing them when they pulled out - as you were to seeing them pull out while you were passing them. for that reason I don't justify kicking mirrors, etc as you pass them.
Having said that there are those few who actually purposely try to knock us off our bikes - In Challymo's case I would quite frankly have just driven straight into his kid without swerving and courtesy braking at the end to give the impression of actually trying to avoid him! You want to beat me up - fine.... But you'll have to stop me!
Also us bikers do occasion drive in a way which cars consider to be very wreckless:
- Fishtailing down the road
- overtaking by squeezing past 2 cars
- doing wheelies
- not indicating
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TimB
Regular Member
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 14:53:27
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I think its all getting a bit petty.
I havent actually 'reported' anything traffic related in my life, apart from the one time I saw a load of teenagers (14,15 yr old) tearing about in a stolen Astra and clipping parked cars. I was worried they may injure somone very soon so I phoned it in.
But I have never reported anything else becuase:
a)nothing I have seen on the road has ever been bad enough to warrent reporting in my opinion.
b)what goes around comes around, and no one has ever reported me in 10 years of driving for severe speeding, handbrake turns, wheelieing, doughnuts, burnouts etc.. Although I am considerate as to where and when I do these things.
c)We have Police for reporting those sorts of things and I'm not a busybody jobsworth.
This all smacks of one of those 'wierd' people you see that have Cameres all over their house to 'catch' their neighbours doing things. I think you can make yourself paranoid after a while. I drive/ride quite a lot of miles in various cars and bikes for work and pleasure and its quite rare that I see anything that raises my blood pressure! |
ZX7R Ninja with custom paint and polished bits, CBR900RR Blade, Honda Z50R mokey bike! Best fun on 2 wheels... |
Edited by - TimB on 25/01/2008 14:54:36 |
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challymo
Settled In Member
United Kingdom
190 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 15:32:36
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| I can see you point quicksilver, but in some cases it needed to be reported. As with my case i was assaulted (albeit i had full armour on) and i have heard of someone having coffee chucked at them, now these i see as reportable instances as it is direct and unavoidable. But people pulling out on me and taxis tailgaing and such other things i just get miffed off about grumble about it in my head and keep a sharper eye on similar vehicles. |
300 bikes riding round a small town, even better when the police block the cars for us. VFR400R |
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AlanH
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1040 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 16:50:55
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Originally posted by leopard_pagan
tailgaters get the brakes treatment, they soon learn
That'll really show them - especially when you're sitting on their windscreen wondering why you can't feel your arms and legs any more. If they actually bother to stick around and don't just drive off, they'll get a few points and a fine. You'll get to join NABD and a whole new way of life.
Just chill out and don't provoke conflict. I know it's not right but if someone is such a moron that they are tailgating a bike, a 'back off' sign is going to be like a red rag to a bull rather than instantly improve their driving habits.
Isn't it better to get out of their way (either by letting the idiot past or by leaving them standing) and let them go and kill someone else or themselves instead of you?
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Tham
Familiar Member
United Kingdom
345 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 17:31:54
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In my most clear state of mind I've seemingly seen my silly actions or reactions create other stupidities somewhere else on the road, like a chain reaction of dumbness somehow effecting people in other lanes - this worried me, is it like a virus that sometimes your immune system fails to fend off? (i didnt get chicken pox till 32)
But i have to say - will shopping a bloke to get a 20 month ban help the guy learn any more than the lesson of flipping your car and *Censored*ing up - with a passager on board. How does banning someone who's stupid enough to 'do it again cos it was OK lastime' stop them from doing it again while banned? It makes sense to shop someone before that get it all tangled. Im not judging anyone - but petty springs to mind. If someone was damaged then yes let the hammer fall. I've give grace and am humble for my lessons.
And again no judgement - but how many people who ride a sports bike (not a Harley) find themselves being tailgated unless they consciously know they are going slow, and are irritatingly blocking cars ? We all do it - but who's conscious of it - and tries to get the furk out of the way ? |
Wot IS that... musk?? |
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AlanH
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1040 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 17:36:39
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Originally posted by matman
The worst drivers are (in no particular order): vans, lorries, buses, taxis, oh-look-at-me-i-have-a-fast-car-i-can-overtake-in-stupid-places drivers.
You missed out bikers, all other car drivers, cyclists etc...
Basically it's people that are bad drivers. It doesn't matter what vehicle it is - they're all driven by people and a proportion of the population should never be behind the controls of ANY vehicle irrespective of whether they have passed a test or not. |
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leopard_pagan
The Oracle
United Kingdom
10898 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 17:48:39
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"how many people who ride a sports bike (not a Harley) find themselves being tailgated unless they consciously know they are going slow, and are irritatingly blocking cars ? We all do it - but who's conscious of it - and tries to get the furk out of the way ?"
> your in a 60 mph limit being tail gates.. sure open up and leave them.
> your in a 30 mph limit with a car in front, oncoming and being tailgated..... *Censored* all you can do. and how am i being in the way? i have full rights to be where i am. |
>^..^< NC29 RR-L with all sorts of custom bits and mods |
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Barn
Settled In Member
United Kingdom
138 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 18:04:33
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| A policeman once told me that if there is no supporting evidence like damage or injury or a secondary witness statement from an unconnected third party, guess what, they ain't interested. In fact it would be standard practise. |
Barn, Gloucester, Ridden many, this one's not for sale |
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